Chilliwack River Advisory Group Meeting November 25, 2013
Ministry of Forests Building, Airport Road, Chilliwack
Attendance list: Jack Bryceland (FMC of BC), Mike Peters (RSTBC),Leon Lebrun (Trails BC), Kim Reeves (4WDABC), ,
Rose Schroeder (Horse Council BC), Brian Romak (CSC), Pat Harrison (HikeBC, National Hiking Trail), Karin Smith
(BCHBC), Scott DavisFisch (FVMBA), Adam Frey (VKC), Bruce Ledingham (SWATT), Sam Waddington (FMCBCCOC)
Wally Klammer (GVMC), Dwight Harris (GVMC), Jacquie Horn (RNATV), Dean Jesiak (RNATV), Mike Overhoff (DSBC),
Tom Timmerman (DSBC), Al Derosia (Popkum Motor Park), Mike Muller (Popkum Motor Park)
Discussion: Rose S presented the Horse Council Trails Workshop info. Focus on maintaining the trails we have. Groups
interested in an invite or having speaker suggestions please contact the Horse Council Office: Jennifer Pipe at 6048564304
ext 109 or firstname.lastname@example.org
1. Mike Peters opened the meeting with introductions around the table. No speaker available from the Teal Jones Group.
Mike Crane from TJ provided maps with overlying cut blocks. Maps from Bruce L of West Harrison area and ATV
trails. Suggested the need of a maintenance plan for water control.
Whelan bridge will be there for one more year,
then pulled out and road deactivated for 4X use. Staging area well used. Lots of logging up Weaver Creek currently,
Karin S asked if Mike had received signage example email for trail crossings on the Chwk Lake Road along the TCT.
Will send again.
2. Communication reminder to circulate the minutes to partner clubs. Suggestion to add contacts to email group list.
3. Updates from the District:
a) MGC Campsite Management, East and West Harrison Rec Sites working on a plan.
Partnership Agreements are being redone.
ORC (Outdoor Rec Council) is having a review of the document done by a legal counsel to bring back to Council
Transfers Under Agreements: key here being the words “under agreements”. Funds that can be applied for by
Clubs for day to day expenses. 2014 Funds up to a maximum of $5000.00
Still working on establishing the TCT and building a Volunteer Agreement. First Nations has a few issues to be
Will Elk/Thurston be mixed use? Mtn bike maybe? Confirmed nonmotorized: too many sensitive areas that need to
be respected. Motorized need to stay on roads or whole area will be banned.
Toll Booth area on Coquihalla is a concern because of extensive motorized use into alpine areas
b) Tamahi complaints quiet
c) FVRD and RST are developing a Management Plan Agreement for Elk/Thurston and Mt Cheam Trails. Will do
these but no more at this time.
d) Chilliwack Staging Area updates Rapids up and running: clean, no vandalism. Tamahi cleared and leveled. Need
a design plan including signage. Mike needs to apply for capital funding now to finish it.
e) Blue Mountain resurrected but some of the funding is lost. Private land issues still hanging it up but a solution is in
f) Bowen Island issue Nature Trust has a 125 acre parcel that motorized are encroaching on a sensitive area within. RST has been asked to block access. Signage is not working. Mike brought this up as an awareness issue.
g) Provincial Meeting update DM and ADM were present and very supportive. There was discussion around Treaty
implications on RST. Some bands want treaties and some don’t. Discussed “Key Rec Sites (high value) that RST
may not want included in deals. One of the “keys” is getting rec sites and trails under partnership agreements. Trail
Standards and Classifications, manuals, ORV Management, Partnership Agreements, road maintenance and the
Resource Roads Act were discussed. If you have any issues about roads Mike needs to know.
Question? Are there road standards? Yes but need to consider topography across the province, weather, surface,
amount of use etc.
Nesakawatch bridge and trail upgrade? Are there other users of the trail? There is some history: Jack B had at one time
sent a bridge diagram to engineering.
a new BC Highways Cam has been put up near the entrance to Chilliwack Lake Provincial Park entrance
h) East Sector Land in the Harrison area. Ecological Land Commission is under revision. Project is stalled.
i) Chilliwack City meeting on Gill Road/Peg Leg/ Old Orchard issues biggest concern is garbage dumping. Need
some way to manage use by controlling access so in the future may consider developing into a Park or Rec Site.
City of Chwk, FVRD, RST and residents are involved in trying to find solutions. River Keepers Stewardship Group is
currently trying signage at Gill Road.
j) Reservation fees in Rec Sites currently revising policies. Change reservation fees to a cap of max $150.00
k) Vedder Mtn Interpretive Forest update staff from Squamish helping to finish draft. Ready to go out for referrals.
l) Sunshine Valley/Silver Tip project update still exploring building a staging area there. Is the timing right? Is there
enough use? There is higher use elsewhere.
m) New Partnership Agreement update discussed above. Agreements being redone.
n) Fire Arms Notice in Chwk River Valley Firearms sign is up at the Fish Hatchery. Suggestion there could be more
signage. Report of more shooting across the TCT in the Tolmie Gravel pit area
0) Budget Update Operational budget about the same ($135,000.00). Capital projects Mike needs to apply now.
Ideas: get to Mike now. Land Based Investment Funding has come back: Mike’s budget for it looks like this:
Mission TFL $15,000.00 (Interpretive Forest designation, partner with Dist of Mission)
Long Island Bay $26,000.00 (docks and rec site, partner with Harrison Lake Yacht Club)
First Nations $10,000.00 (rec site and trails projects, partner with Chilliwack First Nations)
Hale Creek $10,000.00 (partner with Chwk 4X4 Club)
Mt Cheam/Elk Thurston/HBC/Tikwalus Trail Signage $8,960.00 (partner with FVRD and Hope Mtn Center)
p) BC Parks Boundary Amendment Sasquatch Park. Asking for amendment for road designation. Currently a BC
Parks Rd but would like to change it to Forestry Road for access to woodlots as well as an emergency access for
Town of Harrison. Mike circulated a request letter. If we have any issues with it need to contact Ted Holtby
Trail Counters. Info coming back is good. Batteries not lasting as long as thought. Eventually there will be one on every
Old Thurston Camp in Chwk River Valley. Use of it is back in talks. Consideration of selling it? Mike would like to see it
developed into a rec site.
Frost Creek in Columbia Valley being considered for an IPP. More info at http://zellacorp.com/projects-2/projects/
Discussion with Popkum Motor Park reps on a trail from Popkum site to Chipmunk Creek.
Decision to continue to invite FVRD, local MLA and Industry Rep.4. Next Meeting Monday, January 13 2014 at Foresty Bldg, Airport Road 7:00 pm
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